Jon and Doug discuss the heart quality of equanimity and how to avoid its near enemy indifference.

Practice can often be most helpful when things in our life go sideways. Jon and Doug discuss practice in the context of doctors, dentists, and hospital visits. 

We return again to the topic of meditation and discuss different styles, and traditions and the “right way” to meditate.

Doug and Jon discuss various Buddhist and other traditions and how they may or may not relate to each other.